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Keano
03-29-2009, 05:17 AM
Ali daei just got sacked, wow this is really a huge shocker, I am in disbelief!

اختصاصي ايرنا/
سرمربي تيم ملي فوتبال برکنار شد
"علي دايي" سرمربي تيم ملي فوتبال کشورمان برکنار شد.

به گزارش ايرنا، يک منبع آگاه اعلام کرد در پاسخ به درخواست هاي مردم و به دليل کوتاهي سرمربي تيم ملي فوتبال کشورمان در انجام وظايف و کسب نتايج ضعيف تيم ملي فوتبال در بازي هاي مقدماتي جام جهاني، علي دايي از سرمربيگري تيم ملي برکنار شد.
اطلاعات تکميلي متعاقبا ارسال خواهد شد.
شب گذشته (شنبه شب) در چارچوب رقابت هاي مقدماتي جام جهاني 2010آفريقاي جنوبي، تيم ملي فوتبال ايران در مقابل تيم ملي عربستان در يک ديدار پر اشتباه در حالي که با نتيجه يک بر صفر پيش افتاده بود، بازي را با نتيجه 2بر 1 به حريف سنتي خود واگذار کرد تا با اين شکست شانس صعود ايران به جام جهاني کمرنگ شود.

http://www5.irna.ir/View/FullStory/?NewsId=411474

Keano
03-29-2009, 05:28 AM
Bah bah cheshemoon roshan:
Mayeli Kohan Naamzade aslie Morabigarie Iran! :(:confused::IFF:

با تصمیم مسئولان فدراسیون فوتبال ؛
علی دایی از مربیگری تیم ملی ایران برکنار شد / مایلی کهن نامزد اصلی مربیگری ایران

با تصمیم مسئولان فدراسیون فوتبال کشورمان ، علی دایی بعد از شکست تیم ملی فوتبال ایران مقابل عربستان از سمت خود برکنار شد.
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تاریخ : يكشنبه 09 فروردين 1388


با تصمیم مسئولان فدراسیون فوتبال کشورمان ، علی دایی بعد از شکست تیم ملی فوتبال ایران مقابل عربستان از سمت خود برکنار شد.

به گزارش خبرگزاری ورزش ایران (ایپنا) ، این تصمیم در پی کسب نتیجه ضعیف در مقابل عربستان در بازی روز گذشته رخ داد. تیم ملی فوتبال کشورمان روز گذشته در مقابل صد هزار هوادار مقابل میهمان خود با نتیجه دو بر یک شکست خورده بود.

از محمد مایلی کهن سرمربی سابق کشورمان در سال 1996 به عنوان اصلی ترین نامزد مربیگری ایران نام برده می شود.

اخبار تکمیلی متعاقباً ارسال می شود.

Oftadeh
03-29-2009, 06:31 AM
Bah bah cheshemoon roshan:
Mayeli Kohan Naamzade aslie Morabigarie Iran! :(:confused::IFF:

That's a horrible, horrible cruel joke. Is it April 1st already?

Jashar
03-29-2009, 07:23 AM
I bet this is one of those rumors again. I guess he is still coach! :rolleyes:

registrationsarefun
03-29-2009, 07:43 AM
english article
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=89919&sectionid=3510211

shafeii
03-29-2009, 08:21 AM
I bet this is one of those rumors again. I guess he is still coach! :rolleyes:

jashar jaan.
i hope that this is a rumor too.
here is goal.com reporting it: http://goal.com/en/news/1277/west-asia/2009/03/29/1180987/ali-daei-fired-as-iran-coach-reports


assuming that all of this is true i am a dissapionted fan. it's not the time to make a change, i feel that he should continue with his project.

it's amazing how all this happened in less than 24hours. in my opinion is that they take a time to consider the change, looks more like a emotional decsion (sacking ali daei)


ba sepaas
shafeii

kharmagas
03-29-2009, 08:45 AM
We should send the U21 team to the remaining matches and start planning for 2014.

Hamidoo
03-29-2009, 09:33 AM
I bet this is one of those rumors again. I guess he is still coach! :rolleyes:

It's official Jashar jaan.
http://www.mehrnews.com/fa/newsdetail.aspx?NewsID=852843

Shahinc
03-29-2009, 12:40 PM
Bad news !!!!! His change is not going to solve anything.

highflyerreborn
03-29-2009, 01:13 PM
BAD decision - this was not a good call , his guidance lead team to 1-0 untill last 10 min what else can you sayit was jut player fitness issue - and they play with their iranian clubs 100% of time


BAD decision

Observer
03-29-2009, 01:18 PM
I bet this is one of those rumors again. I guess he is still coach! :rolleyes:

This is true - I saw this in ISNA web site as well.
http://isna.ir/Isna/NewsView.aspx?ID=News-1309487&Lang=P

Unfortunately this is another darn "Band Aid" solution of IFF to cover its main problems. Rather than setting up friendly games with good teams, they just fired Ali Daei to shut people up. They've had over 2.5 years after last WC to fix the problems- now with typical Iranian style they're trying to fix the problems with only three qualifying games left to play. I'm not even sure who can save the team-e meli at this stage.

:IFF:

SoccerBug
03-29-2009, 01:41 PM
BAD decision - this was not a good call , his guidance lead team to 1-0 untill last 10 min what else can you sayit was jut player fitness issue - and they play with their iranian clubs 100% of time


BAD decision

and who the F*** picked and trained these unfit players? :)

yavar
03-29-2009, 02:20 PM
this team was trained for 65 min.
best news for the sake of Iranian football.

KABABEE
03-29-2009, 04:32 PM
We are acting like the rest of Arab teams more and more each day.

Coach loses ONE game and we sack him. Just when I think IFF has gone as low as possible, they find a way to go lower. WTF, wasn't this Daie's FIRST lose in a formal game???????????

I am not saying Daie would have been a good coach or not, but now we will never find out. Poor guy gave his life to football in Iran and we can't even give his six months. We crush him like nothing. It's unbelievable!!!!

Daie deserved better.
One game???????? one game???????? are you kiding me???????

IFF Sucks Arabs hairy balls.

:IFF::IFF::IFF::IFF::IFF::IFF::IFF::IFF::IFF::IFF:

Ahmad18s
03-29-2009, 04:37 PM
LOL this is how loyal fans act after just one game? Do you guys think that we're SA and can switch up coaching staffs in the middle of the WCQ's? I mean, I would have liked to see Ghotbi as the HC, but before the WCQ's started. I don't think firing Daei is the solution.

RASTAFARI
03-29-2009, 04:48 PM
65 minute fitness is the problem at club level and not national level. You can not make a player 100% match ready in two weeks before international game. You can however evaluate a player performance in a real test match ie:friendly match and see whether they should start and at what point they should get subbed. This is the very principle essence of football. If it is not DIAE, then it is branco , if it is not branco , then it is Galo Noie , if it is not Galo Noie then it is Jalal Talibi. At what point do you accept the responsibility that the problem is at the root fundenmental. We do not have proper training at club level and the level of competition in IPL is equivalent to leagues in Hondorus and El-salvador at best but we keep insisting that we are best in asia and keep comparing our players to top European players like this persian commentator on fox sport that was saying with no shame that Iran considers Rezaie the wayne rooney and saudi considers their player equivalent to Raul and the US commentator said "That is a very big comparison" and within a few seconds Rezie could not control a high ball sent to him and you could hear the sarcasim on US commentator evaluation. We are lucky where we stand in the group as we have been outplayed by SA home and away, UAE away.

Oftadeh
03-29-2009, 05:09 PM
Daie deserved better.
One game???????? one game???????? are you kiding me???????

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It's not really about one game, it is the performance so far, 5 games - 6 points - little chance of qualification. Perhaps a new coach will put some fire in those players.

Keano
03-29-2009, 05:23 PM
We are acting like the rest of Arab teams more and more each day.

Coach loses ONE game and we sack him. Just when I think IFF has gone as low as possible, they find a way to go lower. WTF, wasn't this Daie's FIRST lose in a formal game???????????

I am not saying Daie would have been a good coach or not, but now we will never find out. Poor guy gave his life to football in Iran and we can't even give his six months. We crush him like nothing. It's unbelievable!!!!

Daie deserved better.
One game???????? one game???????? are you kiding me???????

IFF Sucks Arabs hairy balls.

:IFF::IFF::IFF::IFF::IFF::IFF::IFF::IFF::IFF::IFF:


Kababee jaan,

I have always been a huge admirer of Daei, especially as a TM player, however his team's performance over the past year has not been convincing, failing to impress in neither one of these past series of games while not showing slightest signs of improvement and on the contrary getting worse game by game and finally failing to beat a much much weakened Saudi team which BTW were missing 7 key starters in one of the most intimidating stadiums of the world Azadi and in front of 100,000 enthusiastic spectators who showed up in the stadium to revive and celebrate the sweet memories of 4 years ago against Japan and being humiliated by a crippled Saudi team in our own turf. Even the most optimistic and die hard Saudi fan was predicting a Saudi defeat or at best a draw.

Daei proved to be a very conservative and defensive-minded coach, Of course if you have the right tools to resort to such tactics you may as well take advantage of it, however he should have realized that our defense has never been reliable, and he should have never used the 'Score one and defend all the way' tactic, because he must have realized that this tactic has never worked for us, he should have learned a precious lesson from the 2 games, 2 leads, 2 losses in the month of March (Esteghlal, Sepahan against Saudi clubs).

Add to all of the above his arrogance, selfishness, stubbornness, egotistical characteristics over and over, the lack of decency in conveying his messages and replies to his critics be it in public or in his interviews always outraged most of us. He just cannot handle stress in a logical and courteous manner and often resorts to name calling. He never took a loss like a man, I for one cannot remember one single loss or bad performance of his teams not being blamed on other factors or others by Daei, after every single failure he tried to find an excuse to justify his losses and never admitted that it was his team's shortcoming, not even once for God's sake!

I still love Ali daei and wish him the best of luck, he needs to take anger management classes and some managerial courses, then start coaching smaller clubs, gain experience and earn some more common sense and courtesy, then who knows one day again he might be re-appointed for TM HC position, but then it will be a totally different and much improved Ali Daei God willing!

Sorry for the long post! :)

And Yes I am confident that we will qualify to the World Cup, I don't wanna brag and don't wanna sound superstitious either , but normally my instincts don't lie to me, I have a strong feeling that we will qualify and we will, please mark my words!


http://www.dabndoodle.com/have%20faith1.JPG

Kachal
03-29-2009, 08:00 PM
We are acting like the rest of Arab teams more and more each day.

Coach loses ONE game and we sack him. Just when I think IFF has gone as low as possible, they find a way to go lower. WTF, wasn't this Daie's FIRST lose in a formal game???????????

I am not saying Daie would have been a good coach or not, but now we will never find out. Poor guy gave his life to football in Iran and we can't even give his six months. We crush him like nothing. It's unbelievable!!!!

Daie deserved better.
One game???????? one game???????? are you kiding me???????

IFF Sucks Arabs hairy balls.

:IFF::IFF::IFF::IFF::IFF::IFF::IFF::IFF::IFF::IFF:

This loss has cost us a lot.
5 games and 6 points?

Right. he has done a lot for our football just as a PLAYER.
In order for us to qualify for WC we have to win all 3 games. ( 2 away and 1 at home). How could he manage to do it? magar inke mojeze beshe.

palang
03-29-2009, 08:13 PM
they should of sack who ever picked him as a natiomal coach as well.beside his little knowlage about coaching , his arragent got better of him, he should of been sacked after EMARAT game m we would have a chance.

footballdxb
03-30-2009, 01:22 AM
Honestly, I think this was another hasty decision made by IFF. Taking away Ali Daei and treating him in such way would not encourage any coach to take over his position... if it is not for a good deal of money for the next 3 matches and most probably an end of career in Iranian football.

For me, players' match fitness was not the reason we lost the game. IMO, our players' automatic change of attitude towards the game after scoring the goal caused us the loss.

New coach's challanges are:

1. Team selection (IT is the most delicate move for the new HC. He must please TM fans in his selection. IFF's decision towards Ali Daei was mainly caused by Fans' anger, relating the loss at home to exclusion of Ali Karimi from the squad.)
2. Evaluation of his selection within a limited number of meetings (with one potential friendly in hand in 2 days time!)
3. 2 away matches to South and North Korea with no options but to win both matches. Lets not forget that all teams have high interest in winning matches in the second round, consider home games as a huge advantage for their side and opt for an attacking style of the game).
4. Finding miracle remedies to our long lasting defense and forward line problems.

Good luck to TM and our new HC (whomsoever he will be).

Go Iran Go TM

Sayyid
03-30-2009, 01:36 AM
Kababee jaan,

I have always been a huge admirer of Daei, especially as a TM player, however his team's performance over the past year has not been convincing, failing to impress in neither one of these past series of games while not showing slightest signs of improvement and on the contrary getting worse game by game and finally failing to beat a much much weakened Saudi team which BTW were missing 7 key starters in one of the most intimidating stadiums of the world Azadi and in front of 100,000 enthusiastic spectators who showed up in the stadium to revive and celebrate the sweet memories of 4 years ago against Japan and being humiliated by a crippled Saudi team in our own turf. Even the most optimistic and die hard Saudi fan was predicting a Saudi defeat or at best a draw.

Daei proved to be a very conservative and defensive-minded coach, Of course if you have the right tools to resort to such tactics you may as well take advantage of it, however he should have realized that our defense has never been reliable, and he should have never used the 'Score one and defend all the way' tactic, because he must have realized that this tactic has never worked for us, he should have learned a precious lesson from the 2 games, 2 leads, 2 losses in the month of March (Esteghlal, Sepahan against Saudi clubs).

Add to all of the above his arrogance, selfishness, stubbornness, egotistical characteristics over and over, the lack of decency in conveying his messages and replies to his critics be it in public or in his interviews always outraged most of us. He just cannot handle stress in a logical and courteous manner and often resorts to name calling. He never took a loss like a man, I for one cannot remember one single loss or bad performance of his teams not being blamed on other factors or others by Daei, after every single failure he tried to find an excuse to justify his losses and never admitted that it was his team's shortcoming, not even once for God's sake!

I still love Ali daei and wish him the best of luck, he needs to take anger management classes and some managerial courses, then start coaching smaller clubs, gain experience and earn some more common sense and courtesy, then who knows one day again he might be re-appointed for TM HC position, but then it will be a totally different and much improved Ali Daei God willing!

Sorry for the long post! :)

And Yes I am confident that we will qualify to the World Cup, I don't wanna brag and don't wanna sound superstitious either , but normally my instincts don't lie to me, I have a strong feeling that we will qualify and we will, please mark my words!


http://www.dabndoodle.com/have%20faith1.JPG

I think I love you man! Great post!

highflyerreborn
03-30-2009, 05:05 AM
Problem : I will explain it simple as possible


1 GK
2 65 min
3 65 min
4 55 min
5 70 min
6 80 min
7 88 min
8 59 min
9 65 min
10 70 min
11 65 min


This is Iran's player's fitness level

When the team plays Fit team like Saudia

Even the fit players take more load chasing the ball all over field and they get tired quickly

The players with bad fitness are ones playing soccer in Iranian league they ones in Europe their fitness is not bad

But a team need 11 FIT players who can play 90 min

Bache Jordan
03-30-2009, 08:05 AM
I think both Qalenoyi and Daie were not ready for TM and are too young.

Young coaches may be successful in countries such as Germany with a world class system and world class assitant coaches and psychologist but not in a country like Iran.

I believe both Qalenoyi and Daie are decent coaches. But I had a big problem with their attidtude! Their attitude has led me to dislike both and be happty for their consectutive sackings.

In that regards Qotbi is a much much better coach but I even feel he may not be ready yet.


Daie's sacking has calmed be emotionally but he is not the root of our problem. IFF needs re-structuring, we hane not made any progress since 1998.

Btw at the end of teh game people were shouting:
Mahmoud boro biroon

palang
03-30-2009, 09:08 AM
beside deai is deai for us as a player, what a hell he knowes about coaching?
team meli and iranian players are not easy task for any big coaches never mind deai,with least coaching knowlage and exprince. he shouldnt take the job first of all, and he should of been sacked 2 games ago , when we had achance to go to world cup.now say good bye to 2010.we wont make the third in the group.

highflyerreborn
03-30-2009, 06:46 PM
You know I watched the game - and Iran did not played very bad it was player vs player -

I do feel sorry Daei was sacked , he deserved to make a come back

Farooq
03-31-2009, 12:39 AM
I can't believe they sacked Daei this quickly. The only way this situation can be turned around is getting a smart foreign coach. We have only one month left and no foreign coach will be able to familiarize themselves with Iranian football that quickly. This leaves us with only domestic options, and I think Ghotbi is the best person for the job, due simply to his familiarity with Korean football.. I hope Rotemoeller stays on as well. Does anybody know anything about him?


Maybe it is time, we talked about what Iran needs to do in the next games. I noticed the following were the major problems

1) Lack of speed in the defense
2) Lack of finishing up front.
3) General fitness quality.

These three problems combined, suggest we should go for defensive strategy. Try to run out the clock until the second half then attack.
We need some real work in the back. What about getting Rahman Rezaie back? He is the only world-class center back we have. The rest of the defenders are either too slow or too small. I think if we had Karim Bagheri in the last game, he could have made a big difference defensively.

Perhaps we should just get a defensive midfield too and mow down anybody who tries to make a run. Maybe put Shojei and Karimi up front and just feed them long balls and hope they out dribble the defenders.

shawnagha
03-31-2009, 03:12 AM
as i said in my last post in the other forum, i believe we can still make it to the world cup in this group! but god if mayelli kohan becomes our coach, i'm throwing my t.v. out the window. I WANT QOTBI! we don't need another unprofessional coach who has not accomplished a single thing in their coaching career to be tm's head coach. there is a 4 point difference between number 1 and number 4 teams...
bottom line, there is still EVERYTHING to play for in this group!

Sayyid
03-31-2009, 04:25 AM
as i said in my last post in the other forum, i believe we can still make it to the world cup in this group! but god if mayelli kohan becomes our coach, i'm throwing my t.v. out the window. I WANT QOTBI! we don't need another unprofessional coach who has not accomplished a single thing in their coaching career to be tm's head coach. there is a 4 point difference between number 1 and number 4 teams...
bottom line, there is still EVERYTHING to play for in this group!

Qotbi is a great option, the guy is obviously a professional, and a very smart coach with lots of experience. Now picking him would mean that IFF has admitted to their mistake by picking Daie over him in the first place, and we all know IFF is "ma'soom" and "perfect"!!

shawnagha
03-31-2009, 04:22 PM
Qotbi is a great option, the guy is obviously a professional, and a very smart coach with lots of experience. Now picking him would mean that IFF has admitted to their mistake by picking Daie over him in the first place, and we all know IFF is "ma'soom" and "perfect"!!

yeah well this is about their jobs! get us to the world cup, or the the hell out! their best bet is qotbi! not any1 else! if they don't pick qotbi, not even jesus can help them get to the world cup.

footballdxb
04-01-2009, 01:50 AM
Qotbi is a great option, the guy is obviously a professional, and a very smart coach with lots of experience. Now picking him would mean that IFF has admitted to their mistake by picking Daie over him in the first place, and we all know IFF is "ma'soom" and "perfect"!!
Sayyid jaan, what IFF does is just pretending they care about our football. They simply use popular figures in our football for calming our anger for a short period of time and when things go wrong due to their uncompetitive practices, they simply change the person who is in the front line. Qotbi is a good option if he gets to work with our team unconditionally for the next 4 years at least. Otherwise, he will sooner or later be seen as someone with no real international coaching experience and hated by many...
IMO, if IFF wants to use someone for the next 4 or 5 months, it is better we start spoiling the image of an already consummed personality and keep the image and personality of others intact!!! What a pitiful situation it is...